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From : Alex Ershov                         2:469/81        Чтв 06 Мар 97 23:36
To   : All                                                 Суб 08 Мар 97 02:19
Subj : PIC 16C5X Protection
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Hello All!

AM>> Возник такой вопpос. Есть защишенный subj, что будет если
AM>> снять защиту - сотpется ли он? 16C84 стиpается о чем честно
AM>> сказано в доке. Пpо этого же звеpя пpо снятие защиты не сказано
AM>> ничего...

Hа суд пpофи выдаю текст найденный на каком-то ftp-шнике...

=== От сюдова ===

    The security of the PIC code protection mechanism has been discussed many
times  before.  It  has  even  been discussed on the Microchip BBS: in Message
61000  of  the  "Relablty"  SIG David Wilkie of Microchip ends one such thread
with the soothing: "I assure you that the code is safe once the protection bit
is activated."

    The  vulnerability  of  the  16C84 is of particular concern. The 16C84 is
often used in smart cards issued by the satellite TV industry. These cards are
intended to permit access to encrypted TV channels, and clearly there is a lot
of  interest  in being able to clone the cards thereby avoiding payment to the
TV  providers.  This  means  the  protection  topic  is endlessly discussed in
newsgroups like alt.satellite.tv.europe. Every so often this newsgroup carries
adverts for hardware which is claimed to be capable of reading protected PICs.
I have always been skeptical of these claims. I have changed my mind.

    The  fact that I provide information on a homebrew 16C84 programmer means
that  I often get asked whether I know how to read protected PICs. Recently an
interesting   situation  arose.  I  received  yet  another  request  for  this
information  at exactly the same time that someone happened to send me details
of  a  technique  claimed to unprotect PICs. I simply passed these on from one
correspondent to the other. Much to my surprise the requester later wrote back
to  say  the  technique  worked  (but he destroyed 3 PICs in the attempt). The
originator  of  the  method  is  happy for the information to be placed in the
public  domain  although  he wants to remain anonymous for some reason. So for
the  benefit of PICLIST readers (and I know that includes Microchip employees)
here  are  his instructions more or less verbatim (although the description is
tied to his programmer the other guy used a variant of mine):

 1. I use the PIC16 programmer from Farnell Components (part no.
    459-471).

 2. The standard programming software supplied is ASLPIC from
    Application Solutions Ltd.

 3. Install the 16C84 into a turned pin socket with pin 14 (VDD)
    cut off.  Attach a flying lead to the stub of pin 14 and
    connect this to a power supply (0V to +14V) sharing a common
    ground with the programmer.

 4. Run ASLPIC.
    Insert the PIC+socket into the ZIF on the programmer board and switch
    VDD to 5V.
    From the menu set the CP configuration fuse to OFF.
    Now set VDD to VPP-0.5V (approx 13.5 volts).
    Program the configuration fuses.  (Reply on screen saying
    error invalid??  Ignore this error and set VDD back to 5V.)
    Switch VDD supply off at the power supply.
    Switch off programmer supply.
    Wait 10 to 20 secs.
    Switch on programmer supply.
    Switch the VDD supply to 5V.
    Read PIC.

    What may be confusing to people is the error message displayed
    when programming the configuration fuses, and next not waiting for
    the charge on the cells to fall back to 5 volts after setting the
    fuses. This is why I say switch off for 10 to 20 secs, but don't
    forget to reset the VDD supply to 5 volts first.

    I  must  admit  it  looks  like a surefire way to destroy PICs to me so I
haven't  tried  it  myself even though the originator claims that he has never
fried  a  16C84 this way. I realise the fact that I have never tried it myself
means  that  all this is just hearsay, but although there are some points left
to  the  imagination, the description is explicit enough to be tested by those
worried by such things.

    I   have   no   idea  whether  the  method  is  related  to  Bela  Gebles
<100324.526@compuserve.com>  technique,  but  if  you think this info is worth
GBP1000,  then like him, I'll be happy to give you my bank account details :-)
On the other hand if you think it's all hogwash, then I'm sorry to have wasted
your time.

=== До сюдова ===


Здесь был Alex Ershov (AKA E.R.Show)

* Origin:  Hе по pту ложка, зато по моpде кpужка.  (2:469/81)

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